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evilleprechaun
Posted 12/5/2008 8:49 PM (#10096)
Subject: Mount Stats Adjustment


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I believe mount stats should be balanced since it seems mounts have gotten progressively better as time has progressed in the game.
All mounts have 20 speed but...

Wolf:
STR: 40
AGI: 55
WIS: 45
Total Added Stats: 140

Tiger:
STR: 55
AGI: 50
WIS: 45
Total Added Stats: 150

Camel:
STR: 40
AGI: 40
WIS: 80
Total Added Stats: 160

Elephant:
STR: 80
AGI: 40
WIS: 40
Total Added Stats: 160

Motorcycle:
STR: 70
AGI: 70
WIS: 60
Total Added Stats: 200

Now I know you have to pay to "maintain" the motorcycle, which is a whole 'nother issue, but that still puts people who got the first two permanent mounts at a disadvantage, and the people who got the motorcycle key at a huge advantage. Oh yeah, and keys were not tradeable back when tigers and wolves were introduced. And they cost more. Sooo... care to make things a little more fair?
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Winterblade
Posted 12/6/2008 3:13 AM (#10102 - in reply to #10096)
Subject: RE: Mount Stats Adjustment


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Hahaha... just stop complaining wont you?
Seen your post in the next rare section as well.

Dont forget about the IM hackers at the start. Keys were so damn cheap.. Such tht ppl can collect over 100s of silver keys.

Just take a look at silver keys now. You try comparing getting a rare from a santabox and a silver key.
santabox is way harder, of coz the stats should be better than key mounts.
Furthermore, we have to train the bike ourselves, not like mounts from silver key.
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evilleprechaun
Posted 12/6/2008 7:17 AM (#10106 - in reply to #10102)
Subject: RE: Mount Stats Adjustment


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So wait, how is that any more fair, winter? You have to pay money to get keys and you get worse mounts?

And keys weren't trade-able when tigers/wolves came out. There still is no explanation why wolves/tigers are worse than camels and elephants.
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Myra
Posted 12/6/2008 2:12 PM (#10121 - in reply to #10096)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment



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The bike is non-tradeable, causing the "training" or tuning process of the bike to done by the owner him/herself. Most probably don't have good horse training skills to quicken the process, and tons of bike food are needed. Consider the materials for the food, such as Iron Class, the prices of which are soaring now. If the bike owner doesn't wish to buy or hunt these mats, the other option would be of course, to buy Horse Feed from IM. Either way, there is definitely more time and money (marbles or GCoins) spent on training and maintaining the bike (the Oil for refill is what, 41 mil Marbles?) Unlike other rare mounts, they do not come fully-trained and they require marbles to extend its life span. So why shouldn't the bike get better stats?

More importantly, if the developers do not keep making better rares, how else are they going to keep the IM players spending? You can complain about the bikes now, but sooner or later they will release something similar with even better stats. This game is essentially a business; most customers won't pay for something that is not better than what they already have. It was never about fairness. You don't see Apple compensating the older Macbook users just because the company released a new Macbook with better specs and features. Neither would they release new notebooks with the same old specs. It just doesn't make sense.
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HPL1506
Posted 12/7/2008 5:28 AM (#10143 - in reply to #10096)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment



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nothing is fair and I don think we really like all things to be FAIR...

FAIR? then set all weapon to same attack...
FAIR? then set all magic to the same.....
FAIR? then set the spear PD diff from other weapon....
FAIR? then set weapon(old) to have all slot add in FREE (unfair to old player who have OLD and good rank weapon..as they need slot cystal.. while new player will be lucky to have the slot free)
FAIR? then set all town distance between each town = same so those faraway town don have to travel long distance....
FAIR? then etc etc etc
FAIR? want more etc????



Why u guys want things to be fair?? just play the game and suit the game and not changing the game to suit you.
as there are many "YOU" out there.... how are we going to SUIT the game.......

how is it going to be fair when each want diff things?????

if you want FAIR then I think u can forget about play GZ.... and other MMORPG game too..

what is fair. . . .



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TheMason
Posted 12/7/2008 2:23 PM (#10152 - in reply to #10096)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment



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also would be nice if they would adjust mounts to include dex and int, perhaps having dex match agi and int match wis. not all players need the agi anymore. and im takin evils side on this, balancing mounts would be nice.
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forumfireflare
Posted 12/8/2008 5:39 AM (#10171 - in reply to #10143)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment



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HPL1506 - 12/7/2008 5:28 AM
Why u guys want things to be fair??

cuz unfairness costs too much dam money, sky.. isnt that obvious?

Myra
You don't see Apple compensating the older Macbook users just because the company released a new Macbook with better specs and features. Neither would they release new notebooks with the same old specs. It just doesn't make sense.

nice try but not really relevant... apple is selling a product, ndoors sells pixels... so if you want a better comparison, use operating systems or other software like for example the recent "upgrade" from xp to vista. Xp users even tho they have xp can buy an upgrade to vista without having to buy a new computer. so why shouldnt ndoors offer upgrades as well to CUSTOMERS.

maybe instead of people buying and using the new mount and the old mount being stockpiled as garbage in the landfill.. the new mount can have options like you can use the mount for what it is or the mount can instead be exchanged for an item that can "upgrade" semi-permanently an older mount.
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HPL1506
Posted 12/8/2008 5:11 PM (#10187 - in reply to #10171)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment



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actually unfairness will bring in more "fun" to the game, so that each will continue to seek for better product..
if all things are actually the same.. then why bother to keep them? since 1 can be used for all??

that why unfairness is good for us.. imaging all items is about the same (pixel or not) then users will not have the urge to spend to get the items as it all the same.

that the whole idea of logic behind.

Think now what we need is NDOORs to change the stat of the mount not to fairness but stats wise..

think dex = accuracy.. agi = evasion.. why you need evasion skill to hold a gun instead of accuracy?
there more problems then meet the one.

If you going to balance the mount then you will see some player said... "what the heck I paid to get this mount as it offer different stats then others and now NDOORS change so that all are well balance!!"
And there you go another users complain about the game and want fairness to be done..

So if each users have the power to change the game to their fairness... do you think you still going to play this game??

I still always the same...
changes yourself to suit the game and not changing the game to suit you.

it same as in real life..

you gonna change to suit the world and not changing the world to suit you.

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forumfireflare
Posted 12/9/2008 4:38 AM (#10211 - in reply to #10096)
Subject: RE: Mount Stats Adjustment



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I just think we, the players, should have options. Why does everybody have to have a motobike? If they spend the money, why cant they pump up an older mount instead.

I dont even know why guns would require accuracy to hold. Maybe evasion makes more sense even. Because you have to stand there and shoot the gun so you better have good evasion.


I can understand the frustration though. You spend $1000 a year ago and today that money is wasted (in ur opinion) cuz theres better rare things. thats why I think ndoors would be good to have partial refunds since it would allow older customers an advantage at upgrading their stuff.

Edited by forumfireflare 12/9/2008 4:58 AM
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DeathNite
Posted 12/10/2008 3:55 AM (#10282 - in reply to #10096)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment


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snook.. ur point of view maybe partially correct.. but listen to another point of view.. you bought a car for 50k last year.. this year a newer model of the car came out.. do you think you will get a refund from the car seller at all? it mirrors real life.. ndoors is a profit motivated company lik many others and wont give a refund for something you have used for over a year now..
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forumfireflare
Posted 12/10/2008 5:17 AM (#10289 - in reply to #10282)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment



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DeathNite - 12/10/2008 3:55 AM

snook.. ur point of view maybe partially correct.. but listen to another point of view.. you bought a car for 50k last year.. this year a newer model of the car came out.. do you think you will get a refund from the car seller at all? it mirrors real life.. ndoors is a profit motivated company lik many others and wont give a refund for something you have used for over a year now..


lol yeah, but you can trade in your old car for the newer model.. atleast you can in this country ^^. once ndoors gives us these magical pixels we cant do crap with em.. its an immediate loss of $100-$200---$1000 bucks!!
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spg
Posted 12/10/2008 5:44 AM (#10292 - in reply to #10289)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment


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this is called the asset trade in where your old asset (the said car) is valued at a fair market value and traded in with a newer model + capital (ie. cash)
this is a where you do an trade in (non) monetary exchange in asset where the adjusted value of the vehicle to realize as your gain or lost on trade =D
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Joslynn
Posted 12/10/2008 7:42 AM (#10300 - in reply to #10096)
Subject: Re: Mount Stats Adjustment


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So many opinions here for what needs to be done by Ndoors. I really like the idea of adjusting the stats on the mounts; however, I doubt the can do it without messing up some other area and giving us another big bug that ends up costing us marbles. I also like knowing each mount that comes out will be better. So I'm torn. The only thing I know for sure is that having a motocycle in Goonzu seems out of place. I believe we should be riding dragons by now...or something else that flys. Oooppps....I guess that wouldn't be fair to the ppl on the ground. Again, I'm torn...
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Monday123
Posted 1/8/2018 11:34 PM (#215437 - in reply to #10096)
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Posted 1/18/2018 11:33 PM (#215615 - in reply to #10096)
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