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ModThrones
Posted 6/22/2015 1:22 AM (#212912)
Subject: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread





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Hello Everyone!


This is the official thread for the 'Crystal' Issues that's been bugging most of our players. In here we will be discussing everything related to the

Crystal Issues such as the troubles like Crystal Stacking, etc. Please discuss bugs and errors in a very detailed way.


This thread will be kept open until we have a clear description for our developers.

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For the format, we will still follow the old bug reporting format. For the format follow this link:
http://luminary.valofe.com/center/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23637&posts=1&start=1

This thread will be taken care by:
- GM Rhie

Please stay on topic and lets all be civilized! <3

 

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killerXv2
Posted 6/22/2015 1:48 AM (#212913 - in reply to #212912)
Subject: Re: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread


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I has waiting for this so long to fix it.

My solution :
Completely taking off Crystal NPC (Cindy) so no1 can take/remove or recharging it. let it be until it become 0. (eventhore it will take take to wait until it 0)
in meantime, we has to change crystal to other thing (similar to put addition for eq/weap slot)

Unless Dev and GM wanna check one by one acc that already suspect for using it, suspend or ban since it violate TOS.
checking it probably will take time too.

It really needed to do something ASAP about this serious issue.

Reason :
New player or old player didnt hav change to take part for any event since
the damage done by Hacker(Crystal hack) are totally different gap.
normal dmg usual below 10k include cric, but 'this guy' normal atck already more then 15k+~25k.killing 1mob with just 2or3 hits only.
The rest of player didnt hav change to kill especially Invasion event.

Hope Dev and GM can FIX this issue coz it already more then 1year.

Thank you.
Nitendo.
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ModThrones
Posted 6/23/2015 5:27 AM (#212914 - in reply to #212912)
Subject: RE: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread





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Entry of Hagipher

Title
"Cannot Change. Please try again pop up"

Description
Crystals cannot be embedded in an armor or weapon.

What is the problem
This problem appears when someone got different cl***es (ruby, pearl, amethyst, topaz, sapphire, diamond) or different type (S1, S2, A, B, C, D, E, F)
of crystals in a weapon or armor set.

For example I got in my shoes: 2 topaz crystals, 2 pearl and 1 sapphire, I'm trying to replace my vit+40 crystal for an vit +44 crystal. (1)Then the pop up a
message that say: "Cannot Change. Please try again" because I got 2 topaz and 1 sapphire and it's a mess. ... (2)

Another example If I got S1 crystal in my shoes, I can put s2 crystals but I can't put lower.

How should it work
I do not think we should remove that kind of security because it avoid for players with ilegal crystals like higher than 3x or 300% that basic property.

Additional Information
How to avoid this issue?
You can avoid this issue if you put in your weapon/armor the same type(s1,s2,A,B,C,D,E,F,) and cl*** (ruby,pearl...).

Example:
Put in your 5 slotted gun or armor, 5 pieces of the same S2 crystals of your choice. ....(3)

How to put crystals if my slots are disordered?
Put your crystals in pairs of 2 o 3 forming groups and replacing the previous crystals.

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ModThrones
Posted 6/23/2015 5:32 AM (#212915 - in reply to #212912)
Subject: RE: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread





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Entry of Hagipher 2

Title
Why my crystals don't stack?

Description
Crystals don't stack.

What is the problem
Players thinks that every crystal stacks like:
Physical Attack 15 in armor and Physical Attack 21% in helmet = 21% physical attack
Why? Because Crystals don't stack.
Except weight % crystal (ruby), this is the one that stack.
Don't matter where you put your crystals in the same wep, in another part, Crystal stats never is a summatory.

How should it work
Like always, the higher crystal is accepted by the game system.
Example: If you got a crystal vit +44 and another vit+40 in another wep, the system only accept +44.

Additional Information
Always put the same kind of crystal in your weapon/armor.


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ModThrones
Posted 6/23/2015 6:09 AM (#212916 - in reply to #212912)
Subject: RE: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread





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Entry of Hagipher 3


Title
The reality about PG Crystals, illegal crystals.

Description
In game we found a variety of crystals with good stats.

What is the problem
There are some crystals with 2x,3x and insane x %.
Some players thinks that isn't possible create those crystals but it's possible partially.
A Crystal when is open with NPC CINDY will get as we can see in (1) picture the "plus mark" more than basic property,
that's the reason because we got sometimes +40 str crystals or 21% magic attack crystal.
And some times our crystal will "multiply" his basic property as we can see at picture (1)
Duplicated power: Impossible , in this case our crystal cannot multiply.
Remember the m?x % is always 3x times the basic property,
for example: basic property of magic attack is 15% that means max "PG crystal" is 45%.
There are another kind of crystals with insane % like 255%,100%, those are cracked crystals(editted crystal), as we can see in picture (2)
Now let's use logic.
If craft a PG crystal (picture 3)is very hard because the ratio is like you made 1000 of them and you got 0.5% to get 1 PG crystals and we got about 20
sets(20 x of each crystal in PG ) circulating in our server that means that we got alot of Top Artisan Manufacture because you can get 90.000 skill crystal
exp for every crystal that you made. Then why we only got 2 tops crystal manufacturer and another are only lower than 40/80 crystal skill?
The answer is... black magic!! lol, obviously someone in the past edited many crystals and those was sold for our players. Who does not want to become stronger?
It's understandable but isn't ok.

How should it work
1.punish those crystals that exceed 3x
2.a)Secretly establish a list of players with those crystals and do population control, each new crystal must be registered with the GMS and they must see logs to verify the legitimacy.
b)Do other kinds of crystals that are more dificult to make like every monster in game can drop crystals or give us a list of materials or crystals as prize for quest.
Do not put the drop to only one type of boss, it generates fight and drama.
c) Dissapear all crystals. (This options is a toothache for developers and therefore impossible. whole armor will bug.
d)Increase the rate of PG crystals and thus prevent someone crackee. It is like legalizing marijuana this option but have sense.
e)Copy the Gem system of grand fantasy (aeria game game).

Additional Information
It is very easy to detect all users with crystals MG, PG, HG, hacked. Even where it is obvious crystals hide illegal in the summon and summonkeep option

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OverAriel
Posted 7/27/2015 1:07 PM (#212939 - in reply to #212916)
Subject: Re: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread


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i want to know that can we still make a pg/mg crystal in game now.
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OverAriel
Posted 7/27/2015 1:10 PM (#212940 - in reply to #212912)
Subject: Re: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread


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when u can fix this bug , then we can put different crystal in a same weapon or armor.
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valansa
Posted 4/19/2018 5:30 AM (#230702 - in reply to #212912)
Subject: RE: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread


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Posted 9/27/2018 10:13 PM (#245540 - in reply to #212912)
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Posted 4/19/2019 6:29 PM (#347711 - in reply to #212912)
Subject: RE: Official Crystal Bug Disscussion Thread


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